Cancel third world debt

This was the first debate round that was prepared in advanced for better quality.

Debate Flow: Cancel third world debt, 21st of September (to open the file, change its extension from *.pdf to *.xls)

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2 responses to “Cancel third world debt

  1. The case proposed by Yuri and Paulius was nice. Only one thing is that making the extra conditions: 1) investment on civil infrastructure 2) public services, made the case weaker. It would have been much better and stronger if told that cancel all debts despite where spent, because it is anyways about principles.
    My own ides about the case:
    Problem: third world countries have huge debts, something needs to be done
    Definitions: Third world countries – kind of self defining, other things as well
    Plan: Cancel all debt on third world countries
    Argument 1: The concept of debt. It is morally wrong from developed countries to even place the debt on third world countries because we are responsible for their miserable state. Firstly, we colonised them and used as cash cows without developing their economy or life. Moreover, we made them export dependent. (this argument coinsides with Yuri&Paulius’ one, but I am sure that Yuri explained it more sophisticatedly 🙂
    Argument 2: Who has to pay the debt? It is IMF-s and World Bank’s own fault that they gave the money into wrong hands. The rulers of these countries didn’t use the money to develop economy or other institutions like that, but for weapons, luxuries etc (e.g. King Swaasiland – half of GDP on luxuries for the rulers). But the money should be now paid back by the regular citizens who anyways work really hard to survive. So, again it is morally wrong from developed countries to ask the money from third world countries.
    Argument 3: Benefits of cancellation for the third world countries. Gives more motivation for third world countries to work for development. Otherwise they might just think that thay have so huge debts and most of the money they receive from hard work will go away from the country, so why bother.
    Argument 4: Benefits of cancellation for the developed countries. They might not get back the money anyway. Better reputation in the eyes of third world countries. Future partner.

    Last two are weaker arguments. I just put them here because they might be thought further and then they can develop into better arguments 🙂

    About the opposition case:

    Always a bad idea to say that we don’t owe the third world countries anything 🙂

    Then I don’t know how well Martin established the idea about that being a bad example and if we will cancel the debt, they think that they can just borrow the money and waste it and nothing happens.
    This should to my mind be the leading argument of the opposition. I would suggent explainig it as follows: We have to teach the third world countries responsibility as well. They have to see that all is not just given to them, but they have some responsibilities as well when they receive it. We give them also developing aid and that is something they get for free, but on the other hand we also need the “stick” and this is the loan we give them.

    I also think that loss of money is much weaker argument than morality ones.

  2. I feel that Opp argument of responsibility is the strongest one on the table.

    Another thing that comes into my mind for Gov’t was “Society” argument. The basic idea here would be that ordinary people, people who have to work, educate etc. won’t know what is happening in the country, they won’t know that they have loan, they won’t know that they have responsibility, they won’t understand why 50% of what they earn is paid to Europe and US. So the bottom of the line is that people won’t learn responsibility. Then it also should be explained that country cannot become responsible, it is society who becomes; however, it cannot happen in the third world.

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